Interview with 'the Folks,' Part Five
Interview, Part One ~ Part Two ~ Part Three ~ Part Four
Channelers note: For continuity and
understanding... if you haven't already, please first read part one, part two, part three and part four of this interview and
especially the Channelers' note at the
top of part one. In addition to what is stated in our note there,
we'd like to mention again that while they are two essences speaking as
one, 'the Folks' refer to themselves individually as 'Spirit' and 'the
Mother.'
The American Election
Channelers: As a reminder for readers, when
'the Folks' are referring only to themselves we capitalize 'We,' Us,'
and 'Our.' When they refer to themselves and Humans together, these
terms are not capitalized.
Folks, we've been feeling triggered about the
upcoming American elections this year (2008). What can you tell us
about the transpersonal imprints that are being triggered in us?
"For most humans, government in any guise
has been an intimidating form. Even when you have been on the side the
government has favored, you have experienced distrust of it as a form
that has had power over you. There is deep denial of Will in any form
that moves to control behaviors.
"The American elections this year, as in
many other countries recently, have brought the inner battle between
deep parts of Self more prominently into the world. This is valuable to
the healing work because certain parts of your deep selves that have
been in internal conflict are now projected out onto the world stage in
the dramas of elections.
"This battle has been raging at the deepest
layer of Being since before Earth was manifested. When We the Creators
were completely gapped with no communication between Us, the beings
that We had created took sides with either one or the other of Us.
"A very deep terror of being overrun and
consumed by the Mother and her intense emotional responses pervaded the
Spirit Polarity. In reaction to this terror in Spirit, a whole new
class of beings emerged who called themselves 'Father Warriors.'
The
terror these beings felt told them that they must control the Will
in order to protect Spirit from the Mother, and moved to do so in
opposition to the Mother and the Will Polarity beings they perceived as
causing their terror.
"The very fact that there has been a battle,
not to mention the tactics of deceit and denial used by the Father
Warriors, has triggered deep terror and revulsion in the Mother. This
battle has been reenacted many, many times in manifestation... and each
time love has been the loser. Even the 'Mother Warriors' who arose to
protect the Mother from the Father Warriors have been using hatred and
denial energy to further their cause.
"This ancient transpersonal hatred and
strife, this never-ending war, has felt good to a great many humans who
have made it their own at the personal level. There are still many on
Earth who love a good fight, and there is still enormous energy to
prolong the ancient battle of the Father Warriors against the Will.
Almost all of the strife in your civilization has been in reaction to
the unconscious, frozen terror of the lost Will in your lower chakras.
"The 'world economy' is another example of
an intimidating form in your civilization where fear is triggered to
help fortify the position of those who 'own' things. The perceived need
and very premise for civilization is to protect those who have
ownership of material abundance from those who don't. And this too has
been a reenactment of the ancient battle the Father Warriors have been
waging against the Will.
"You have been feeling terror and revulsion
in your politics recently because this lost Will in humanity is being
triggered more than usual. Still operating is the ancient strategy of
the Father Warriors to trigger fear in the population and then show
that only they have the power to protect the population. This strategy
was used when they first came to Earth and is being used now to see
that their human surrogates win the current election. Any effort to go
up against this will only trigger more denied terror, and the Father
Warriors will simply use it to show everyone why they should stay in
power."
Thank you Folks, what do you suggest we do
here by way of healing?
"First, find the frozen terror in yourselves
that has been triggered by the world stage events, and bring the light
of loving acceptance to your own lost Will. You can do this more easily
when you remember that you are truly safe and that the world stage
events are happening for the purpose of triggering this frozen terror
so that full loving acceptance and healing can finally come to it.
"As your Will essence begins to vibrate with
your acceptance, you also have a good opportunity to take your
projections off of the economic leaders and politicians on the world
stage. You can now own them as parts of yourselves, which they truly
are. The Father Warriors and their strategies of denial are alive
within your deep Being. Bring the ancient war home to the only place it
can be healed, inside of you. You will be pleasantly surprised by the
powerful results of owning and healing the perpetrators within yourself.
"The outer political beliefs that seem
opposite of yours are being held inside of you by parts of yourself
that you have been unconscious of, parts that are still in your shadow.
These are fragments of spirit that can lead you to the lost Will they
have been controlling. The key to doing this is in your willingness to own the perpetrators you've been seeing
outside of yourself as the reflections of bona fide parts of your whole
Being."
Thank you Folks, what else can we do to heal
this gap between loving Light and lost Will?
"You can find the qualities that you abhor
in the politicians and business leaders you don't agree with, and then
find the parts of yourselves that have had these qualities. You must of
course be honest with yourself, and judgment
release is vital here.
"Please remember that you have been innocent
all along. There has been much unconsciousness, and yet evolution
happens. All that has been unconscious is destined to become conscious.
The main issue now is that your Human identity has been squeezed into a very small
container by the conditioning of the civilization that has sought
to control you. The time has now come for this conditioning to move...
your full, undenied greatness is needed for the healing at hand."
The Truth That is Deeper Than Judgment
Thank you Folks, near the end of Part Four of this
interview you said something similar, that as humans we are responsible
for all that has happened in Creation. At first glance it could seem
that this means humans are somehow at fault for all the evil that is
present on Earth now. Would you please say more about this?
"First, as We mentioned in that part, it's
important to make the distinction between 'responsibility' and blame or
fault. As what has been hidden within you comes into the light of your
loving consciousness, you can see more clearly that there really is no
valid reason for either blame or fault.
"As Spirit
has
said, everyone has always been doing the best they could with
what they were working with at the time. The only guilt or blame that
exists is that which has been held in place by the judgments in imprints. Since none of those
judgments are true, neither is the guilt or blame.
"The judgments are either directly released
or they spontaneously release as part of the imprints' healing in the
clear truth of loving Light. Love is what is true, judgments and denial
are not, and neither is the guilt or blame they hold present in
feelings.
"Although it may seem strange to the Human
mind, it is true that everything that has happened in this Universe has
happened the only way it could have. In other words, everything has
happened just as it was supposed to. This is important to know because
in order to succeed as the Healer you
will simply have to trust that the Universe has been good and operating
correctly at all times."
The Universe is Good and Operating
Correctly at All Times
"Obviously, there has been a tremendous
amount of evil and perpetration in the Universe. And not so obviously
there has been an evolving movement to heal the imprints and their
reenactments that the evil and perpetration have been part of.
"The reenacting of ancient, transpersonal
imprints has been part of a good Universe operating correctly, moving
from pain and fragmentation toward healing and wholeness. Now that more
Humans have become aware of the issues and have more and more
willingness to heal these imprints, real healing has begun in many of
these imprints... both in the human healers themselves and in Creation
as a whole.
"In understanding responsibility, it's
important to know that you can be responsible only when you decide to
take responsibility. And you can heal only what you take responsibility
to heal. Otherwise, the healing of these ancient imprints is left to
someone else. And if there is someone else who is more responsible than
you... then you would be a fragment of that larger whole, and therefore
not the Healer.
"Wholeness of Being is your birthright as a
Human. However, by its very nature, it is not something that can be
given to you. Your wholeness and your healing are yours for the having,
and you can have them when you take full and loving responsibility for
all of the evil and perpetration in Creation... as well as for all of
the goodness and beauty."
You Are the Universe
"To get a feel for this movement, pause for
a moment now... and imagine something good in Creation. When you have
chosen something... observe it carefully and then say to yourself, 'I
did that.' The 'I' who was speaking was speaking for the deepest part
of your identity. You were speaking for Us, the Creators in you.
"Now take another momentary pause and
imagine something that's evil in Creation. When you've thought of
something, take a deep breath... observe it carefully and then say to
yourself, 'I did that.' Again, you spoke the truth of the deepest part
of your identity. This is where true Human greatness rests, in your
ultimate identity as the Universe itself... all of it, including all
that has felt 'good' and all that has felt 'evil.'
"Now here is a vitally important point. The
new awareness of your deepest Self as perpetrator can lead you to one
of two places... the 'courtroom' or the 'classroom.' In the courtroom
you will find guilt for yourself as the perpetrator, and because that
guilt is fundamentally untrue, justice will be elusive. This is because
the courtroom is about accusations, judgments, guilt, blame, and
suffering. In the classroom however, there is opportunity to learn,
evolve... and heal.
"If there are judgments to release, feel the
'bad' feeling and release the judgments.
Then
immediately feel back into the feeling without judgment and come
into loving acceptance of the feeling energy as a rightful part of your
wholeness.
"If deep denial energy is in the evil you
sense in yourself, release that as
well. Then feel back into the feeling essence that had to hold the
denial for so long, and own that feeling energy too as a rightful part
of your whole Being. And of course you can also release the denial
energy in a feeling by vibrating the feeling with your pure, loving
acceptance until the denial energy can no longer stay present.
"If you are fully identified in the feeling
essence you can move your body and sound the feeling to express it.
Dance and song work well together to embody the feeling and bring it
fully into manifestation. The denial energy in the feeling will then
spontaneous release as the feeling's expression moves from tortured
compression to full-bodied joy and mirth.
"As Humans begin to truly heal their Wills,
your loving conscious awareness will find the right ways to release the
denial energy that has made you unsafe to be with the Mother. Spirit
has spoken more about this whole process of owning the perpetrator in Redeeming the Devils.
"As you awaken to your true greatness, you
become responsible for what had always been left to someone else. You,
the Healer are not to blame for the perpetration you now take
responsibility for healing. And again, in doing this work, the
courtroom is not an appropriate venue. However, the classroom is.
"Although the ancient conditioning has been
deeply entrenched, it can be overcome with determined perseverance and
consistent self-love. Otherwise you will find yourself once again in
the old default place... the courtroom, where the imprints keep
reenacting and you continue to experience reversals in your life.
"Instead, use the opportunity of your new
awareness to intentionally foster your learning and healing. With your
attention and willingness focused on evolving and healing, you will be
able to move more quickly to claim your birthright... a whole and
vibrant Will and her whole Spirit, loving Spirit... embodied in loving
union with enough vital magnetic Mother energy to draw into
manifestation whatever you truly desire."
Cosmic Human Identity
Thank you Folks, it seems like a good idea to
keep ourselves in constant self-forgiveness when we venture deeply into
the universal shadow. What you've said also seems to again raise the
issue of identity. You suggest that Human identity is really a cosmic
identity. How can this be?
"The sense of your constant, unchanging
identity is important to keeping you oriented as the person you feel
yourself to be. The same person who goes to sleep at night wakes in the
morning. However, this sense of being a separate person who has a life
and a personal history is not all of who you are.
"Your true Human identity is with life
itself. Although it may seem strange to hear, it is accurate to say
that very few Humans have actually lived. Except for brief
moments here and there, almost all Humans over age five have been too
frightened to venture outside of the models of reality and the identity
that your mind has constructed for you.
"You have believed yourselves to be small
and unimportant in the grand scheme of things. And this will remain
true for you so long as you continue to unconsciously honor the
perspectives and beliefs that the conditioning in your mind has held
you to.
"Your true identity is so much more than
you've thought yourself to be. As
We
have said, Humans are amazingly vast Beings with potentials well
beyond your present ability to imagine. You have all of the parts of
Deity within you, and if you choose, you may identify as any of these
parts, or as all of Deity combined... the whole Universe and its
Creators. Of course you must first leave behind the erroneous old
beliefs from your conditioning and the disempowering self-hatred they
have engendered.
"Spirit has
pointed out that there is a specific identity in Deity that will
serve you well as the Healer of yourself... and therefore of all
Creation. There is one identity that straddles both the first and second attention, and it is
the essence of your humanness as well.
"Your true Human greatness is not in
yourself as Spirit, or as Mother, or as Heart. Your true greatness is
in yourself as Body. Spirit has said that your identity is flexible, that your
identity is as you choose it to be in the moment, and that when you
choose to identify as Body, you are placing yourself in the position of
the Healer of yourself... and therefore of Creation.
"This choice of identity is only possible if
you are not identifying inside the mind with its maps of pasts and
futures and stories about who you are and who you've been. For
instance, your sense of 'I' living 'my life' is an example of an
unreal, mentally constructed identity. What you've known as your 'life'
is essentially a story your mind has made up about yourself as a
separate fragment of a larger whole, 'the world.' And this is all that
your mind can know about you... a story about the identity of the main
character in the movie of your life.
The mind cannot know your real, true Self.
"There is much, much more to your humanness
than in your made-up identity as the person who lives your life. Your
true identity is vast and well beyond your personal story of
separation, struggle, triumph, elation, defeat, pain and a faint,
distant longing for something you can't quite touch.
"What the mind-made identity that has been
masquerading as you cannot know is the true nature of reality, just as
it is in the present moment. While you
have been asleep and lost in the mind's models of reality with
stories of past and future, while you have been living in a dream-like
story that you have come to know as 'your life,' your true Identity has
been patiently waiting for you, always here in the eternal present
moment, just outside of mind.
"However, this does not mean that your
personal, mental identity is completely unreal. Your old, familiar self
is real in that it is a part of your larger identity. It's just that
this 'self' you've known is not all of who you are. The small,
accustomed ego-based personal self you've called 'me' is only the tip
of a very large iceberg... the vast, universal Self you truly are.
"As Grandfather has said,
the
true Human identity is timeless, eternal. As a present and fully
whole Human Being, you are what brings Divinity into manifestation, you
are the manifesting part of Deity, you are Body.
"Trust yourself as Body. When identified as
Body you can quickly rescue the old conditioned 'you' from the traps of
the mind's conditioning and into full presence in true, loving,
unconditioned reality. Whenever you want to know how to find the
present moment, touch your body. And then as Body, feel into the
quality of the touch. Until you go back into thought, you are here now
in the one, eternal present moment. And of course you can do this
practice anytime you like."
Thank you, Folks. You mentioned that of all of
the parts of Deity, Body exists in two different ways, in both the first attention and second attention.
Please say more about this?
"In what is called the first attention, you
are Body as the physical form that was conceived by your parents, born
on your birthday and has ever since been growing and evolving as a part
of manifestation. And in the second attention, at a deeper layer of
Self you are the cosmic Being that is both what manifests the Universe
and is the Universe.
"Words can only be pointers here, useful as
metaphors but not as containers of truth. The reality of your true
identity that We are pointing to is beyond what words can speak or the
mind can grasp. To the mind this may likely seem to be a paradox. That
is because what We are saying must be felt to be understood.
And as We mentioned earlier, it is only in the way something feels that
you can truly know it."
Okay Folks, thank you very much.
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