Interview with Grandfather, Part Two
Channelers note: The material on this page is a continuation
of both the Interview with Grandfather
and the Interview with God. Two
other pages that would also be good to read before this page
are A Letter to Those Doing the Healing
Work, and A Letter to the Parents
of Creation.
Grandfather, some readers have asked questions you may be able
to answer. For instance, can you give us more information about
this period of massive change we are in up to December 2012 when
the Mayan calendar ends?
"This is Original Spirit abiding in my
love, First Mother or 'Grandmother,' as you know her. It is timely
to discuss these things and the general phenomena associated
with what in your terms is called 'the end of time.' And since
you are asking about events which transcend your present sense
of time, some more clarity about the true nature of reality will
be helpful.
"First it is important to note what the
Spirit of your Creation has already said
regarding the true nature of 'reality.' Your perception of manifestation
is necessarily a wholly subjective experience. You can experience
only what your perceptions, both inner and outer, bring to your
awareness. The popular myth that there is an objective 'world'
that is common to everyone and that can be known and understood
has caused a great deal of confusion and suffering along the
journey of Humanity in this Creation.
"At a deep transpersonal layer of your
Being, you are creating the world
you perceive. It's as if you are producing, directing and
writing your own movie, your own unique and ultimately subjective
'take' on reality. And since the true nature of reality is fully
subjective, each living Human will experience the shattering
experiences at the end of time differently, and ironically at
different 'times.'
"The events predicted for 2012 by the
ancient Maya are not substantially different than those predicted
by Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist and other sages
and seers for 'the end of time.' And the Maya are only one of
many indigenous cultures that have spoken of their deeply held
vision for the events near and immediately after the end of time.
"All of these prophecies point to a relatively
sudden awakening into much greater awareness for some or all
of Humanity. What has been well hidden within the folds of your
present four dimensional world will be clearly revealed by the
additional Light available in the unfolding of the new, five
dimensional world. In other words, there will no longer be places
in manifestation where denial can hide. What has been hidden
away since before linear time began will be revealed and clearly
visible
"One of the first experiences you will
have as you emerge from the vortex of intense energy in the passage
between your enfolded four dimensional world and the newly unfolding
five dimensional world will be the realization that you were
right about everything you believed and had faith in. And very
likely your next experience will be the realization that everyone
else has been right as well.
"The Mother of your Creation has had
a Dream for this Creation since before it began. The
Mother's Dream is that all sentient beings live in peace
with complete freedom... free of denial in any form and steeped
in deep and abiding love, joy, passion and excitement in a safe
and harmonious venue of exquisite beauty and wonder.
Thank you Grandfather. Would you please say
more about how those who have not believed or had faith as we
have will also be right about what they have believed and held
to be true?
"This may at first seem impossible to
the conditioned mind with its habits of analysis, evaluation,
comparison and judgment based on concepts of right doing and
wrongdoing, good and evil, and all other forms of duality. Your
new life in the fifth dimension depends upon a new kind of presence
and a mind with a new kind of attention.
"There has been ancient
conditioning of Spirit that has also been very present in
human consciousness that instinctively draws your attention to
conscious thought... and away from sentient feeling. Without
awareness of the issue and your own conscious use of attention,
this imprint in consciousness will not allow you you to stay
present within a reality your mind cannot understand.
"For instance, notice how often the mind
automatically moves you away from directly experiencing and into
thinking about the experience as if the story about it is more
important than the feeling of it. The new kind of attention can
be practiced anytime whenever you choose to give a feeling your
fully loving conscious presence and choosing to honor the feeling
by expressing what it wants to express.
"In order to experience the realization
that everyone has been right to be as they've been and to have
believed as they have, you will have developed the capacity to
stay present with intense emotional and energetic experiences
without any denial. These means with no comparison, analysis
or thought other than complete loving acceptance.
"With this new ability your mind becomes
a channel of fully loving Divine presence empowering the Mother's
Will to freely move in you, just as she desires. Cultivating
and nurturing this kind of attention is key to opening the passage
to the fifth dimension.
"Since the Mother's Dream and its unfolding
is inscribed in the Universal Will at the deepest layers of Being,
it is here now inside of you and everyone else, waiting to unfold.
The key is having enough loving presence to allow all of the
energy and emotion in and around the portal to the fifth dimension
to move freely in you.
"Since this kind of complete and total
freedom is simply not available in your present manifestation
of only four dimensions, the Mother is insisting that everyone
in the present paradigm somehow find deliverance
from its pain and limitations and join with her and loving
Spirit in the full realization of her Dream.
"The Mother's Dream, however, is not
for only a select few, or for beings only of this Creation. She
and my Will, Original Will, First Mother are united in this Dream
of Free Will for all beings in all Creations. Divinity will not
let anyone down, everyone's faith and steadfastness will be rewarded.
This means that if there is a prophecy with any adherents at
all who have faith in that prophecy, it will be fulfilled for
them in their venues.
"The winter solstice in 2012 is an approximate
date in linear time for a massive planetary event that will provide
enough energy to transport most Humans to the next paradigm in
a relatively short duration of linear time. And along the way
though linear time from here to there, many 'end times' prophecies
will be played out in individual venues and on the world stage.
"For instance, the Christian prophecies
of Armageddon are already beginning to be fulfilled for those
who believe in them. Many will see worsening political and economic
strife on the world stage as a cleansing process leading to the
return of the Christ to gather his flock. And many will experience
ascending into the new paradigm of Heaven in renewed and less
physical bodies as they participate in the predicted 'rapture'
where they are drawn into heavenly bliss to live forever with
the God they've believed in.
"Others will experience the same disturbing
and catastrophic events on the world stage and in their individual
venues as harbingers of the extraterrestrials
who say they have come to save Humanity and bring you 'home'
with them. And in the newly expanded universe of five dimensions
this will happen quite easily for them. Those who have believed
for any reason that they will be lifted out of their 'imprisonment'
here on Earth will experience just that.
"However, a much smaller group of Humans
who do not call Heaven or the Stars their home will remain here
on Earth as they endure the unimaginably intense energy of the
transition while remaining present in their dense physical bodies.
When the dust has settled they will find themselves on a new
Earth and in new bodies capable of manifesting and moving physically
in five dimensions. These Humans will be the first in this Creation
to experience form change in place of death."
The Fifth Dimension
Channelers: Thank you, Grandfather. You mention
the opening of another, fifth dimension. What more can you tell
us about that?
"As I
have said earlier, the Creation within which you now reside
is the last or most recent of seven local universes. Your Creation
is where the most dense and restricted experiences of manifestation
can unfold. The six Creations before you are progressively less
dense and restricted. For instance, form change and other extraordinary
feats of magic for you presently have been more or less ordinary
experiences for many creature-spirits in the Creation just prior
to your present experience of manifestation in this more dense
and time-restricted Creation.
"Understanding the manifesting power
of the 'fifth dimension' is the key to understanding how form
change and other magic beyond your present imagination can easily
happen for you when time as you've know it ends. Simply stated,
there are more dimensions available in manifestation beyond the
three spatial and single temporal dimension that have been available
within the very limited matrix of your agreed-upon 'objective
reality.'
"This very dense and limited reality
has made Creation feel like a prison or reform school for spirits
who had chosen to merge with evolutionary creatures in manifestation.
Human Beings are a mixture of the two primary essences of manifestation,
Spirit and Mother or 'matter,' as is all form. And all spirits
who have come to Earth in human form have been restricted to
only four dimensions of space-time.
"Some came here to escape unloving
Spirit, some came to explore and enjoy, and others, like
the spirits within most readers of this material, came here to
help. Regardless of their initial motivation, all spirits felt
the deep terror of merging with dense manifestation, got caught
up in their own karma of denial of that intensity and became
trapped here.
"The various religions and spiritual
paths of Humanity have sought to help disentangle spirits from
form and help them get free of manifestation so they may once
again return to their 'home' in the Heavens and achieve the oneness
of Spirit they left behind and have sorely missed ever since
coming here. These teachings have not been wrong, and yet they
have missed the point of why spirits migrated to Earth in the
first place.
"The truth of why spirits are here and
having the experiences they have been having is as I've explained
in the introduction to the Body Class.
There are very good reasons for things to have gone the way they
have in the seven manifested Creations, including the very difficult
pain and trauma of entrapped spirits in Human form.
"One way of understanding why it's been
so difficult for Spirits on Earth to work out their karma is
that there has been very little real space here. Your reality
has been folded back on itself. Imagine a cube made of paper
that has been folded in such a way that it is now flat. That
flatness represents the four dimensions of manifestation that
you are presently occupying.
"Now imagine the paper unfolding and
resuming its proper shape as a cube. While only one extra dimension
was necessary for this transformation to happen, the additional
possibilities that are now available for the cube are nearly
endless.
"The new dimension that will open when
time as you have known it ends... is a second dimension of time.
The three familiar spatial dimensions will remain along with
the seemingly linear dimension of time. In addition to the human
mind's sense of past, present and future, another dimension of
time becomes available that is perpendicular to your accustomed
linear time, and not accessible by the mind as you've known it.
Please read what Body
and I have already said about this for more details and understandings
about the fifth dimension.
"The profound and completely unprecedented
experience of the 'end of time' will come to each Human when
you have become truly whole, when you have reclaimed
all of your lost Will and redeemed
all of your lost Spirit. And it is not Spirit, it is the
Divine Will, the Mother and Grandmother, the Universal Feminine
within you whose deep movement of Universal Will opens the next
dimension for your complete and whole Being to unfold in timeless,
eternal presence."
Your Magical Body
Thank you, Grandfather. What can you say about
the individual experience of one's physical body opening into
five dimensions?
"You now have a temporal or 'mortal'
body which is subject to 'accidents,' death, illness, etc. Death
has been a necessary part of your enfolded and very limited four
dimensional space-time venue. And yet deep within you, deep within
Body has been a vague, distant knowing that things could be very
different.
"Children are much more in touch with
this knowing because like all of the Mother's wisdom, knowledge
of these all but forgotten realms can be accessed only through
feeling. Children at play often touch the magic that was available
in the less dense Creations
that have preceded this one. Memories of magical beings like
fairies and elves and magical creatures like unicorns, and satyrs
still flourish in humans beneath the surface of your conscious
awareness.
"The opening of the next dimension opens
the opportunity for true magic to prevail on Earth very much
like what was commonplace in your ancient inklings of magical
lands with magical creatures and beings. Your parental
and loving acceptance of self and others will lead you naturally
to true magic, the ability to manifest whatever you desire, change
form and remain present in manifestation without need of death and rebirth.
"For this to happen, to survive this
transition in dense physical form as you are now, in this most
dense of all Creations, you will endure an intensity of energy
and chaos well beyond anything you can presently imagine. Spirit
has spoken of this and other related topics in his letter
to those doing the healing work.
"The way physical bodies manifest in
four dimensions is very different than the way they manifest
in five dimensions, and the transition from the old to the new
will be unprecedentedly intense in your experience, especially
for the first few humans. It will feel as if all the terror that's
ever been denied in Creation has suddenly become alive and moving
in you and your physical body. And yet, instead of your spirit
instinctively escaping all of this intensity, you will remain
present and whole with it. You will stay awake and alive through
it until you own it all.
"Then, firmly planted in a newly unfolded
space-time reality of five dimensions, you as a sentient Will
creature and conscious Spirit in union will determine the shape
and texture of the eternal moment as it unfolds in and around
you. If new conditions are desired, new conditions appear.
"The 'laws' of nature that seemed so
fixed and determinant in four dimensions are still available
when experiences like that are desired. However, that limited
reality will no longer be necessary for you and your new body,
now at home in the complete freedom of five dimensional space-time.
"The Mother's Dream includes of course
Original Heart's desire that your
experience of wholeness of Being be not only yours alone. It
speaks not only your own wholeness and complete freedom, it includes
the same for others like yourself. It includes your peers, completely
whole and fully realized Human Beings who have also loved and
healed themselves so fully... that like you, they are now manifesting
in an eternal magical Body as you relate together on a completely
new Earth."
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