Interview with Grandfather, Part Two
Interview with Grandfather, Part
One
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Channelers note: The material on this page is a continuation
of both the Interview with Grandfather
and the Interview with God. Two
other pages that would also be good to read before this page
are A Letter to Those Doing the Healing
Work, and A Letter to the Parents
of Creation.
Grandfather, some readers have asked questions you may be able
to answer. For instance, can you give us more information about
this period of massive change we are in up to December 2012 when
the Mayan calendar ends?
"This is Original Spirit abiding in my
love, First Mother or 'Grandmother,' as you know her. It is timely
to discuss the general phenomena associated with what in your
terms is called 'the end of time.' And since you are asking about
events that transcend your present sense of time, some more clarity
about the true nature of reality may be helpful.
"First it is important to note what the
Spirit of your Creation has already said
in this regard. Your perceptions of manifestation are necessarily
wholly subjective experiences. It is in your awareness that manifestation
exists, and you can experience only what your perceptions, both
inner and outer, bring to your awareness.
The popular myth that there is an objective
'world' that is common to everyone and that can be known and
understood has caused a great deal of confusion and suffering
along Humanity's journey toward wholeness. The perception of
self as one person among billions of others in an objective world
places your point of view outside of yourself and perpetuates
the false notion that separation, alienation and fragmentation
are 'real.'
"At a deep transpersonal layer of your
Being, you are creating the world
you perceive. It's as if you are producing, directing and
writing your own movie, your unique and ultimately subjective
'take' on reality. And since the true nature of reality is fully
subjective, each living Human will experience the shattering
events at the end of time differently, and ironically at different
'times.'
"The events predicted for 2012 by the
ancient Maya are not substantially different than those predicted
by sages throughout the millennia. Christian, Muslim, Jewish,
Hindu, Buddhist and other seers have predicted similar events
marking 'the end of time.' And the Maya are only one of many
indigenous cultures that have spoken of their deeply held vision
for the events near and immediately after the end of time.
"All of these prophecies point to a relatively
sudden awakening into much greater awareness for some or all
of Humanity. What has been well hidden within the folds of your
present four-dimensional world will be clearly revealed by the
additional Light available in the unfolding of the new, five-dimensional
world.
"In other words, there will no longer
be places in manifestation where denial can hide. The abundant
new, loving Light attracted to the deeply moving Will in Humans
as they go through these transformative experiences will reveal
what has been hidden from you since before linear time began.
"One of the first experiences you will
have as you emerge from the vortex of intense energy in the passage
between your enfolded four-dimensional world and the newly unfolding
five-dimensional world will be the realization that you were
right about everything you believed and had faith in. And very
likely your next experience will be the realization that everyone
else has been right as well.
"And you will experience even deeper
realizations. The deceptions inherent in perceiving only linear
time have obscured the fact that everything that has ever happened
and everything that will ever happen is all happening now. The
evolving Human mind with all of its wonderful skills and talents
has not been capable of experiencing or even understanding timelessness
and eternity.
"The Mother of your Creation has had
a Dream for this Creation since before it began. The
Mother's Dream is that all sentient beings realize their
greatness and live in peace with complete freedom... free of
denial in any form and steeped in deep and abiding love, joy,
passion and excitement in a safe and harmonious venue
of exquisite beauty and wonder.
A New Kind of Mind
Thank you Grandfather. Would you please say
more about how those who have not believed or had faith as we
have will also be right about what they have believed and held
to be true?
"This may at first seem impossible to
the conditioned mind with its habits of analysis, evaluation,
comparison and judgment based on concepts of right-doing and
wrong-doing, good and evil, and all other forms of duality. Your
new life after the end of time depends upon a new kind of presence
and a mind with a
new kind of attention.
"There has been ancient
conditioning of Spirit that has also been very present in
human consciousness that has instinctively drawn your attention
to conscious thought... and away from sentient feeling. Without
awareness of the issue and your own conscious use of attention,
this imprint in consciousness will not allow you to stay present
within a reality your mind cannot understand.
"For instance, notice how often the mind
has automatically moved you away from directly experiencing and
into thinking about the experience as if the story about it is
more important than the feeling of it. You can practice using
this new kind of attention whenever you choose to give a feeling
your fully loving conscious presence and choose to honor the
feeling by expressing it in whatever way it wants to express.
"In order to experience the realization
that everyone has been right to be as they've been and to have
believed as they have believed, you will have developed the capacity
to stay present with intense emotional and energetic experiences
without any denial. This means with no comparison, analysis or
thought beyond complete loving acceptance of the experience.
"With this new ability your mind becomes
a channel of fully loving Spirit empowering the Mother's Will
to freely move in you, just as she desires. Cultivating and nurturing
this kind of attention is key to opening the passageway to your
new, radically expanded venue beyond the present limitations
of linear time.
"Since the Mother's Dream and its unfolding
is inscribed in the Universal Will at the deepest layers of Being,
it is here now inside of you and everyone else, waiting to unfold.
The key is having enough loving presence to allow all of the
energy and emotion in and around the portal to the fifth dimension
to move freely in you.
"Since this kind of complete and total
freedom is simply not available in your present manifestation
of only four dimensions, the Mother is insisting that everyone
in the present paradigm somehow find deliverance
from its pain and limitations and join with her and loving
Spirit in the full realization of her Dream.
"The Mother's Dream, however, is not
for only a select few, or for beings only of this Creation. The
Mother of your Creation and my own Will, Original Will, First
Mother are united in this Dream of Free Will for all beings in
all Creations. My
plan is and has been to fully support Divine Will in having
her way.
"Unconditional loving acceptance of all
beings and their true desires is the Mother's way. And I can
assure you that Divinity will not let anyone down, everyone's
faith and steadfastness will be rewarded. If there is a prophecy
with any adherents at all who have put their faith in that prophecy,
it will be fulfilled for them in their venues.
"The winter solstice in 2012 is an approximate
date in linear time predicted for a collective planetary event
that will provide enough energy to transport most Humans to the
next paradigm in a relatively short duration of linear time.
And along the way through linear time from here to there, many
'end times' prophecies will be played out in individual venues
and on the world stage.
"For instance, the Christian prophecies
of Armageddon are already beginning to be fulfilled for those
who believe in them. Many will see worsening political and economic
strife on the world stage as a cleansing process leading to the
return of the Christ to gather his flock. And many will experience
ascending into the new paradigm of Heaven in renewed and less
physical bodies as they participate in the predicted 'rapture'
where they are drawn into heavenly bliss to live forever with
the God they've believed in.
"Others will experience the same disturbing
and catastrophic events on the world stage and in their individual
venues as harbingers of the extraterrestrials
who say they have come to save Humanity and bring you 'home'
with them. And in the newly expanded universe of five dimensions
this will happen quite easily for them. Those who have believed
for any reason that they will be lifted out of their 'imprisonment'
here on Earth will experience just that.
"However, a much smaller group of Humans
whose spirits no longer call Heaven or the Stars their home will
remain here on Earth as they endure the unimaginably intense
energy of the transition while remaining present in their dense
physical bodies. When the dust has settled they will find themselves
on a new Earth and in renewed bodies capable of manifesting and
moving physically in five dimensions. These Humans will be the
first in this Creation to experience form change in place of
death."
The Fifth Dimension
Channelers: Thank you, Grandfather. You mention
the opening of another, fifth dimension. What more can you tell
us about that?
"As I
have said earlier, the Creation within which you now reside
is the last or most recent of seven local universes. Your Creation
is where the most dense and restricted experiences of manifestation
can unfold, and where the most lost parts of Divine Will can
be found.
"The six Creations before you are progressively
less dense and restricted. For instance, form change and what
would be other extraordinary feats of magic for you presently
have been more or less ordinary experiences for many creature-spirits
in the Creation just prior to your present experience of manifestation
in your more dense and time-restricted Creation.
"Understanding the manifesting power
available in the 'fifth dimension' is the key to understanding
how form change and other magic beyond your present imagination
can easily happen for you... when time as you've known it ends.
Simply stated, there are more dimensions available in manifestation
beyond the three spatial and single temporal dimension that have
been available within your own very limited venue and the 'world'
of your agreed-upon 'objective reality.'
"This very dense and limited reality
has made Creation feel like a prison or reform school for spirits
who had chosen to merge with evolutionary creatures in manifestation.
Human Beings, as well as all other forms, are a mixture of the
two primary essences of manifestation, Spirit and Mother or 'matter.'
And all spirits who have come to Earth in human form have found
themselves restricted to only four dimensions of space-time.
"Some came here originally to escape
unloving Spirit, some came to explore
and enjoy, and others, like the spirits within most readers of
this material, came here to help. Regardless of their initial
motivation, all spirits coming into manifestation here felt the
deep terror of merging with density and severe restriction of
time and gravity. They each got caught up in their own karma
beginning with the shock and denials of the intensity, and became
trapped here in what has seemed to them like an endless series
of actions and reactions.
"The various religions and spiritual
paths of Humanity have sought to help disentangle spirits from
form and help them get free of manifestation so they may once
again return to their 'home' in the Heavens and achieve the oneness
of Spirit they left behind and have sorely missed ever since
coming here. These teachings have not been wrong, and yet they
have missed the point of why spirits migrated to Earth in the
first place.
"The truth of why spirits are here and
having the experiences they've been having goes beyond their
motivations for coming here. I've discussed in the introduction
to the Body Class the very good reasons for things to have
gone the way they have in the seven manifested Creations, including
the very difficult pain and trauma of spirits in Human form.
"One way of understanding why it's been
so difficult for spirits on Earth to work out their karma is
that there has been very little real space here. Your reality
has been folded back on itself. Imagine a cube made of paper
that has been folded in such a way that it is now flat. That
flatness represents the four dimensions of manifestation that
you are presently occupying.
"Now imagine the paper unfolding and
resuming its proper shape as a cube. While only one extra dimension
was necessary for this transformation to happen, the additional
possibilities that are now available for the cube are nearly
endless.
"The new dimension that will open when
time as you have known it ends... is a second dimension of time.
The three familiar spatial dimensions will remain along with
your present linear dimension of time.
"In addition to the human mind's sense
of past, present and future, another dimension of time becomes
available that is in a way perpendicular to your accustomed linear
time. The ever-expanding present moment is a metaphor for how
this new dimension of time will be experienced. Please read what
Body and I have already
said about the fifth dimension for more details and understandings.
"The profound and completely unprecedented
experience of the 'end of time' will come to each Human when
you have become truly whole, when you have reclaimed
all of your lost Will and redeemed
all of your lost Spirit. And it is not Spirit, it's the Divine
Will, the Mother and Grandmother, the Universal Feminine within
you whose deep movement of Universal Will opens the next dimension
for your complete and whole Being to unfold in timeless, eternal
presence."
Your Magical Body
Thank you, Grandfather. What can you say about
the individual experience of one's physical body opening into
five dimensions?
"You now have a temporal or 'mortal'
body which from your perspective is subject to 'accidents,' death,
illness, etc. Death has been a necessary part of your enfolded
and very limited four-dimensional space-time venue. And yet deep
within you, deep within Body has been a vague, distant knowing
that things could be very different.
"Children are much more in touch with
this knowing because like all of the Mother's wisdom, knowledge
of these all but forgotten realms can be accessed only through
feeling. Children at play often touch the magic that was available
in the less dense Creations
that have preceded this one. Memories of magical beings like
fairies and elves and magical creatures like unicorns, and satyrs
still flourish in Humans beneath the surface of your conscious
awareness.
"The opening of the next dimension opens
the opportunity for true magic to prevail on Earth very much
like what was commonplace in your ancient inklings of magical
lands with magical creatures and beings. Your parental
and loving acceptance of self and others will lead you naturally
to true magic, the ability to manifest whatever you desire, change
form and remain present in manifestation without need of death and rebirth.
"For this to happen, to survive this
transition in dense physical form as you are now, in this most
dense of all Creations, you will endure an intensity of energy
and chaos well beyond anything you can presently imagine. Spirit
has spoken of this and other related topics in his letter
to those doing the healing work.
"The way physical bodies manifest in
four dimensions is very different than the way they manifest
in five dimensions, and the transition from the old to the new
will be unprecedentedly intense in your experience, especially
for the first few Humans. It will feel as if all the terror that's
ever been denied in Creation has suddenly become alive and moving
in you as Body. And yet, instead
of your spirit instinctively escaping all of this intensity,
you will remain present and whole with it. You will stay awake
and alive through it until you own it all.
"Then, firmly planted in a newly unfolded
space-time reality of five dimensions, you as a sentient Will
creature and conscious Spirit in union will determine the shape
and texture of the eternal moment as it unfolds in and around
you. If new conditions are desired, new conditions appear.
"The 'laws' of nature that seemed so
fixed and determinant in four dimensions are still available
when experiences like that are desired. However, that limited
reality will no longer be necessary for you as Body, now at home
in the complete freedom of manifesting five-dimensional space-time.
"The Mother's Dream includes of course
Original Heart's desire that your
experience of wholeness of Being be not only yours alone. It
speaks not only of your own wholeness and complete freedom, it
includes the same for others like you. It includes your peers,
completely whole and fully realized Human Beings who have also
loved and healed themselves so fully... that like you, they are
now manifesting in an timeless magical Body as you relate together
on a completely new Earth."
Channelers Notes: This interview will continue, and there is
more information about The
Healer's Mind on HealingToWholeness.com.
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