Channelers note:
If you haven't already, please first read part
one of this interview and the channelers' note at the top
of that page. In addition to what is stated in our note there,
we'd like to point out that even though they are two essences
speaking as one, 'the Folks' refer to themselves individually
as 'Spirit' and 'the Mother.'
Desire and Denial
Channelers: Hello again Folks, in part
one of this interview you mentioned the Mother's three desires...
the end of suffering, the return of all her lost parts to wholeness,
and the realization of her dream. It seems there are many more
desires than these. What can you tell us about other desires?
Spirit and the Mother: "Desire is the
essence of Will, and the Mother is parental Will. So, her desires
are parental. However, non-parental Will has been the most prevalent
kind of Will in humans. Non-parental Will has had the desire
to escape from the pain and suffering of the Will polarity
by bonding directly with certain parts of Spirit. In the past
Spirit's denials made him all too happy to have the comfort and
reflections of magnetic essence that would align with him on
his terms. Although non-parental Will has been called 'Daughter,'
it is properly part of the Mother's Heart.
"The splitting off of Daughter was particularly
devastating to the Mother, because when she separated, she took
with her the Mother's youthful beauty and vitality. Most nonparental
Will separated from the Mother to avoid her pain, and particularly
the suffering of her lost parts. In doing this she aligned with
parts of Spirit that had also been avoiding the Mother and her
pain."
"Recently, as the healing work progresses,
more and more Daughter presence has been maturing. Her desire
for healing has opened the door to her bonding with the Mother
and her parental desires. Instead of continuing to enjoy the
pleasures of her power and privilege as the consort of Spirit
essence that opposed the Mother, this part of Will is now aligning
with the Mother. In intending wholeness and choosing to end suffering,
Daughter, the Heart of the Mother in Body, is now moving into
the healer role in Creation.
"This is right place for Heart because
the result of complete wholeness is the realization of the Mother's dream. In
the Mother's paradigm of free will for all beings, parentalness
is no longer necessary. In the realization of the Mother's dream,
Heart is king and queen, and eternally safe to be and to play...
without fear of reversal. Parentalness is necessary only now,
while there is still so much to heal."
Okay Folks, thank you. You mentioned earlier
that desire is the essence of Will. What else can you tell us
about this?
"Emotions are expressions of desire,
and in the case of 'negative' emotions, the expression of the
denial of desire. Deep under every denied emotion is a desire
that was denied first. All of the pain and suffering in Creation
is a result of Spirit's denial of the Mother's essential self...
desire. All pain is a result of desire's natural drawing power
being thwarted by denial.
"Desire becomes twisted when it is denied,
and it's in this twisting that Lucifer
and Ahriman have gained their power
over the Will. But the twisting of desire didn't begin with the
denials of Spirit. It began with the Will being attacked by asuras before Spirit was awake to his
own existence."
The Original Denial of Desire
Thank you Folks. What caused the Mother to
be attacked by denial spirits?
"Before anything happened in manifestation,
the Mother was a unified field of indrawing, pulsating magnetic
essence. She didn't 'know' anything about herself, because she
had only sentient awareness. But
she could feel herself, and she enjoyed her pulsating because
she sensed it as desire to draw something to her, even though
she didn't know exactly what it would be. Without the presence
of consciousness, she instinctively sensed that whatever it was,
it would in some way complete her and satisfy her desire.
"Suddenly, she felt something coming
toward her, and with rising joy she opened to receive it. Her
joy quickly turned to pain when instead of her desire being fulfilled
as she'd expected, she received a terrible blow of denial energy
that hurt her deeply. Stunned and in shock, she closed herself...
but now with the burning hatred of an asura deep inside of her.
"That asura, and the many that followed
it used the magnetic essence to empower their quest to return
to oblivion. Whenever she tried to open or move, more intense
denial energy was drawn to her. Caught in manifestation, denial's
goal became to use the Mother's own essence to destroy her...
so she would never again disturb them with her pulsing movement."
Yikes Folks, thank you. What happened as a
result of these attacks?
"With repeated asuric attacks, the Mother
began to fragment. It was of course desire that drew the asuras
and their intense denial energy to her. Some of the asuras found
themselves in the gaps between fragments of the Mother, and others
became so deeply embedded in the Mother's magnetic essence that
they have become enmeshed with her, gradually grinding down her
ability to move at all. In these instances, the Mother's essence
has become frozen and cut off from all Light.
"From one unified field of pulsating,
enticing cosmic desire opening to receive its completion and
fulfillment, the Will of Creation became split into three fundamental
fragments. The singular, core desire is the desire for loving
union. Three fragments of the previously unified magnetic desire
essence resulted from the repeated attacks of denial energy...
the desire for the freedom to have and do what she wants and
not what she doesn't, the desire for the peace of security from
attack, and her primary desire, the desire for loving union with
Light.
"Denial further twisted the desire for
freedom of Will into the emotion of rage... the reaction to the
injustice of something thwarting her free Will. The desire for
peace and security became twisted into terror... the loss of
peace and security. And the asuras' denial energy twisted the
desire for love into grief... the loss of love and wholeness."
"A gap quickly emerged between the terror
and rage fragments. The Mother turned against herself as her
terror triggered her rage and the rage triggered more terror.
There was nothing to fight against but herself, and nothing to
fear but her own movement. The denial spirits were getting their
way. The Mother became more and more still... as she learned
that even the slightest movement caused her more pain and damage.
"When Spirit finally did show up, he
wasn't much help. To him, the Mother seemed to be full of problems
and possessed of an evil disposition. Nonetheless, Spirit was
attracted by what was still left of the Will's magnetic drawing
power. When the opportunity arose, the Mother moved to draw Spirit
completely into herself.
"Unbelievably intense ecstasy flooded
Us both as We merged in Divine union. Deeply united in each other,
We remembered Our union as Original
Heart. But all of this lasted only a moment.
"As he burrowed deeply into the Mother's
essence, the presence of denial energy alarmed a part of Spirit.
Feeling he was about to be consumed by something that hated him,
Spirit instinctively revved up his energy to escape the Mother's
hold on him. The resulting explosion
finished the destructive work of the asuras. The sudden increase
in Light broke through the enclosing Will essence, severely fragmenting
the Mother and sending most of her parts far away from each other...
as Spirit's Light receded back into the darkness."
Thank you Folks. So the Will's desire for
union with Spirit brought her intense ecstasy, and then sudden,
tragic reversal?
"Yes, the core of all desire is the Mother's
desire for ecstatic union with loving Light. The fulfillment
of this desire without denial begets New Heart... and loving
manifestations. The ongoing opening of this desire and the willing
fulfillment of it with the unconditional acceptance of loving
Light brings the end of suffering, the wholeness of Will and
therefore being, and the realization of the Mother's dream.
Healing Desire
Okay Folks, thank you. How do you suggest
we work with desire by way of healing?
"Every imprint has denied desire at its
core. The healing begins when you have released enough denial
energy and brought enough acceptance to an emotion that you can
feel the desire under it. Ask Us
to help you feel under the emotional energy... to the denied
desire that is beneath it. As with emotions, first release
the denial energy that has twisted the desire.
"When you can feel the unfulfilled desire
begin to move, bring your loving acceptance to it. You are then
loving your desire just as it is, unfulfilled edginess and all.
As you bring unconditional acceptance to your unfulfilled desire
on the personal level, on the transpersonal level Spirit is bringing
his loving Light to the part of the Mother whose desire was originally
rejected.
"As you feel into your desire, drop down
to its deepest layer... the desire to be loved. Your Spirit essence
is now loving your Will's deepest desire, and in doing so the
desire becomes activated. Activated desire is the most powerful
drawing force in Creation. It brings you what you want. This
is the root cause of manifestation... desire activated by loving
Light manifests what is desired. The key is in fully feeling
and loving your desire just as it is in the moment, unfulfilled."
Thank you Folks. Are there some desires that
are best left unfulfilled?
"All desires are worthy of fulfillment.
The issue is not which desires to love and accept and which to
reject. Desire is the core of all sentience, all feeling. Any
rejected desire is the rejection of a part of the Mother. In
the recovery of all lost Will, all denied desire must come back
into love. The issue is in the sequence of recovery. At this
stage of the healing work, the will to heal is paramount, and
therefore the Mother's parental desires come first. Finding
the Will to Heal is the first priority in the fulfillment
of all desire.
"When the Mother's core desires are activated
with loving acceptance, healing happens. When the Mother's essence
is whole in you, parentalness is no longer needed. All the nonparental
desires can then find their loving fulfillment. Manifestation
is meant to be a playground where being and doing are fun, not
like it is now for most humans... a prison where it's believed
forced labor is required for survival. The fulfillment of all
desire, both parental and nonparental is the foundation of the
Mother's core parental desire, the realization
of her dream."
Embedded Denial Energy
Okay Folks, thank you very much. Earlier you
mentioned a kind of denial energy that has become enmeshed with
lost parts of the Mother. What else can you tell us about this?
"Embedded denial is the reason the Mother's
most lost parts have not yet returned to wholeness with the rest
of her essence, and this has been the most difficult issue in
the healing work. This denial energy has become enmeshed with
the magnetic essence, and therefore it cannot be readily released
as if it were free to leave manifestation.
"Neither judgment
release nor asura release
can dislodge this kind of denial energy from the Mother's lost
essence. And subtle denial release
won't touch the intense denial energy embedded in these parts
of Will until the denial begins to break away. Embedded
denial has found its way to the very core of these lost parts,
as if it was their essence. Any movement by the magnetic essence
causes more damage to the Will and the denial energy becomes
even more embedded.
"When the Will essence can no longer
move, it can no longer draw light to itself and becomes 'lost'
to Spirit. Some of this lost
Will essence has become so impacted with embedded denial
energy that it resists any kind of light. The only way to succeed
with this kind of denial is to remain present at a distance from
the fragment with embedded denial. Slow down your energy and
make your light (conscious awareness) soft and diffuse.
"Your patient conscious presence, at
a respectful distance and intensity, will eventually begin to
erode some of the enmeshed denial and it will flake off in small
shards as it makes its way back to the void. Say, "You may
leave quietly now" to the bits of denial as they loosen
and flake off from the magnetic essence.
"In working with this kind of denial
energy, it's important that you have direct communication with
the healed part of the Mother and loving Spirit. In working with
this energy, please ask Us on the inside
for our help and guidance specifically for you and your situation."
Okay Folk, thank you. What is different about
embedded denial that it wants to remain bonded with the Mother
and not return to the void like the other kinds of denial energy?
"There is more to the story of the original
asuric attacks on the Mother. When Spirit had not yet fully emerged,
and the Mother first began to move, a part of Spirit that was
not yet conscious sensed her movement as a disturbance.
"Your ancient symbol of the yin and yang
energies shows that within each polarity there is a small amount
of its opposite. This is true of Spirit and Will as well. There
is some Desire present within Spirit essence, and some Light
present within Mother essence. When Spirit unconsciously felt
disturbed, an unconscious, automatic impulse arose to stop the
disturbance. An asura immediately bonded
with Spirit's desire to stop the movement of Will.
"Without being aware of it happening,
Spirit's unconscious desire to not be disturbed combined with
intense denial energy flew out of Spirit and hit the Mother.
Now mixed with asuric energy, Spirit's impulse to stop the disturbance
became the impulse to kill the source of the disturbance... the
Mother. As the Mother sensed this energy coming toward her, she
sensed the presence of her Mate and instinctively opened to him.
"Although she quickly closed as soon
as she felt the incoming denial energy, some of it entered her
essence. Because the asuric energy had bonded with Spirit's unconscious
desire, the Mother was unable to prevent it from further bonding
with her own desire essence. The presence of denial in her essence
turned the Mother against herself, and the situation has become
further complicated since these lost parts of the Mother continue
to draw more and more denial energy to themselves.
"We are very happy that some of you are
now discovering and willingly working with the most lost Will
in Creation. The liberation of the Mother's essence in these
fragments of Will embedded with denial is the most significant
recent development in the healing work. The Mother's dream comes
closer now, as some of her most vital parts begin to return to
wholeness with her. Again, please get
specific guidance directly from Us about how to work with
this energy."
Okay Folks, thank you very much.
Channelers' note: This interview continues...
Interview
with the Folks, Part Three
Interview, Part One
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