Channelers' note: After suspending public channeling of Spirit and
Body on the site a few years ago, we continue to channel for ourselves,
and for our off-line healing work.
For several years now in private channeling we've been communicating
with the healed, parental parts of the Mother and Spirit. To us they
are like a couple... him in alignment with her, and not the other way
around. Also, it feels to us that the 'voice' is Spirit's... but he's
now speaking on behalf of the Mother and himself, as her Spirit.
We refer to them and address both of them
together as 'the Folks.' In a departure from customary
usage on the site, 'Us,' 'We' and 'Our' are capitalized when they
are referring to themselves, and not capitalized when they are
referring to us humans and them together. Here is their first public
Channelers: Hello Folks, what can you tell us
about the progress of the healing work so far?
Spirit and the Mother: "Much healing has
happened toward the end of suffering in those doing the healing work,
and of course much more still needs healing, even in those of you who
have been working the hardest. Realizing this can feel discouraging. To
progress in the healing work, any feelings of discouragement must be
felt, expressed and moved as well.
"Healing into wholeness means more than
just the end of suffering in yourself. The Mother has three core
desires. Her first desire is that the suffering end... for all beings
in Creation. Her second desire is that all fragments of her lost Will
essence return to wholeness with her. This
desire has been the focus of the channeling and healing work here on
this web site.
"The Mother's third desire goes beyond
even wholeness. The most important desire in Creation is the
realization of the Mother's dream. This is where all of the healing
work is heading, so when you ask about 'progress' We can say that there
has been a quickening of the healing movement, and at the same time an
intensification of the denial energy that opposes loving Light and
Thank you Folks. What is the Mother's dream?
"The Mother's dream is that all beings in
Creation experience their true grandeur and greatness. And in their
greatness, do whatever they desire. The Mother's deepest desire is that
you and everyone else in Our Creation be completely free and empowered
to do whatever you want, go wherever you wish and be with whomever you
"At first your mind will have difficulty
understanding how this could be possible, but We can assure you it is
not only possible, but necessary. Free Will, completely free and joyous
in the presence of unwavering loving Light is the truly natural way in
our Creation. And this Creation is the basis of your own Creation and
the full manifestation of your greatness."
Thank you Folks. Wow, lots more questions
come up... First, you mentioned that the denial energy is becoming more
intense. We've noticed a huge increase in denial energy on the planet
over the past several years. There seems to be no end in sight to how
badly things can go on a planetary scale. What else can you tell us
"You are seeing the denials of the
Mother's dream becoming stronger as more lost Will comes back into
wholeness with her. Her desires are gaining more acceptance and more
loving Light, and therefore her power to manifest her desires is
increasing. As We regain Our lost Will essence, the energies that would
prevent us all from manifesting her dream are increasing as well. Your
perception of the intensification of denial energy is a sign that you
are finding more of the lost parts of the Mother in yourself. If the
outer world is reflective of what is inside of you, and of course it is... you are seeing your own
denials reflected 'out there.'"
Thank you. Folks, what do you suggest we do
here by way of healing?
"Some of the denials you are experiencing
are still Spirit's... in the form of either Ahriman
or Lucifer, depending on the
situation. This denial energy is of course also there in your own
spirit as judgments held in the conditioning of your mind. When feeling
the Mother's pain, find the judgments and
"However, most of the new denial energy
becoming apparent on Earth now is the much deeper and more intense
denial energy of the asuras. It may seem to
you that you are not involved with this level of denial, the energy
that powers wars and the deceit and treachery in the local, national
and international politics of your civilization, but that is an error
"The truth is that even events at the
planetary level of your reality are part of your own venue or 'movie.' This is good news, because when
you fully understand the implications, you know that it is within your
power to remove this level of denial... from yourself and the planet.
The asuric energy of hatred, destruction and death needs to be released
back to its right place... the void.
"This is easier to do than it seems.
Working alone or with others, you can do the practice of true sacrifice to release the
asuric energy that is becoming rampant in your world. The only
difference in working at the world level is to realize that each human
you perceive as having this energy in them is a reflection of parts of
your deep self that are in need of healing.
"Releasing denial energy in those you
consider to be greater than yourself and oppressive to you in some way
provides you with another advantage. In doing this, you regain the part
of your own greatness that you have denied in yourself... and projected
onto them and other 'authority figures.'
"To release denial at the planetary level
of your being, it is good to realize that we are working together. Your
spirit aligns with Loving Spirit, Loving
Spirit of course aligns with the Mother... and your Will aligns with
the Mother's desire for her wholeness and the realization of her dream.
In this alignment, from the deepest parts of yourself you have the
power to remove denial energy from the 'larger than life' humans who
use it for power.
"The reflections you are now seeing in
wars and power-over leadership on Earth reflect deep transpersonal
realities that have been in place since before Earth was created. At
one point a class of warrior spirits emerged as a response to the deep
gap between Us, and they are now in manifestation. On one side are
warriors for Spirit, on the other are warriors for the Mother. The
Spirit Warriors are by far the most dominant, and now in most positions
of power on Earth.
"Warrioring is not limited to those in the
military. Finance, science and the media are all bastions of Spirit
Warrior strength. Their agenda appears to be power and wealth, however
their deepest mission is to stamp out every vestige of the Mother's
presence on Earth. Their technology seeks to replace the Will so their
spirits will no longer have to feel any of the Mother's pain.
"Ahriman is the
'god' on whose behalf they hurt and kill. In human form they marched in
the Crusades, burned witches, eradicated indigenous people, subjugated
women, and declared wars of all kinds. They are essentially denial
spirits with unloving intent in human form. Directly confronting these
beings is not the way to deal with them. Finding what they are
reflecting in yourself and removing the denial energy is.
"A word of caution, once you have released
denial energy as suggested in practicing true sacrifice, it is important to
lovingly feel back into the 'bad' feeling you started with. The denial
release clears the space for your loving acceptance of the feeling. If
the feeling is left on the other side of the gap after your denial
release, the gap will remain open. It is through the open gaps still
between Us that the asuras enter our Creation, and of course yourself."
Thank you very much. With the recent rise in
the power and ferocity of the Warriors, it seems to be getting much
darker on the planet. How do you suggest we deal with the sense of
powerlessness and depression that is triggered by world events and
seems to be pervasive among those of us doing the healing work?
"Part of the healing work is learning how
to love and nurture yourselves in the presence of apparent limitations.
You have decided to embark on the long and difficult journey of healing to wholeness. This journey has never
been completed before, anywhere in Creation. Attempts have been made...
but complete wholeness, the return of ALL of the Mother's lost
fragments has yet to be accomplished.
"As We mentioned earlier, there is more at
stake here than simply ending suffering on Earth. As you find more of
the deeper, intensely suffering lost parts of the Mother, you find more
of the intensely ferocious denial energy that has kept them isolated,
lost and unlovable. Your outer reality at the world level is reflecting
this denial energy as it leaves your personal domain and moves outward
toward the void.
"As mentioned in the Letter to Those Doing the Healing Work,
there are times when it will seem that you are completely on your own,
with no sense of direction and with no connection to Us for guidance
and support. It is in times like these that you will have to rely on
your faith in yourself and your healing process. These outer
reflections would not be here if you weren't already succeeding in your
healing. Use them as a sign you are nearing the end of this part of the
journey, and as an opportunity to remove more denial energy from the
Okay Folks, thank you very much. Folks, are
you saying that the more we heal, the worse it gets in the outer
"Yes, but only in the reflection at the
global level. Here in your more immediate venue, you will find things
improving as you release more denial energy, redeem lost spirit essence
and reclaim more of your lost Will. As you find more acceptance for
your emotional essence, it is easier to be in acceptance of everything
else this is going on around you. As you accept more of whatever
reality is coming into your immediate domain, the denial energy at the
global level becomes more apparent."
Thank you Folks, what should we do to accept
the denial energy at the global level?
"There is a vital understanding about
denial that We have learned only recently, and most humans with healing
intent have yet to learn. It is not possible to accept denial
energy, at any level. This is why it must be released. Denial
does not belong in manifestation, its right place is the void.
"Denial is negation, and is therefore
nothing. At the deepest level of reality, where there is no denial,
there is only love. Love is all that is, and acceptance is where love
begins. Denial is the negation of love. Love moves to include, denial
moves to separate. When denial is present it acts on acceptance like
anti-matter acts on matter. Denial annihilates acceptance. We have been
stymied in the healing work for eons by trying to accept denial energy.
The more we accepted it, the stronger it became. Denial has shown Us
that it does not want acceptance, and that it will increase in
intensity until our acceptance is gone.
"Releasing denial energy, however, is
remarkably easy. Releasing judgments releases denial, and releasing
asuric energy releases even the most intense and entrenched denial
energy. Healing at any level is impossible in the presence of denial.
"As you release the denial energy as
suggested in the judgment release
practice and true sacrifice, you
are able to heal the gap that had been occupied by the denial. After a
denial release, the spirit in you simply moves to find loving
acceptance for the emotional essence that had been separated from the
rest of you by the denial. This is the crux of the healing work, remove
denial and then lovingly accept what you had been denying."
Thank you for the clarification, Folks. In
feeling into the reflections from the world stage, we've found a kind
of denial energy that does not seem to respond to the deep denial,
asuric release practice in true sacrifice. What can you tell us about
tells us that it will never again be so... that complete wholeness
means only one being, with no peers. When you are doing the healing
work at the world level, it will not be a solitary affair. The
planetary or world level reflections are shared by all of humanity. In
releasing denial energy and healing gaps at this level of reality, you
will be working together in cooperation with other humans.
"The same practices suggested in true
sacrifice will apply. However, the humans doing the work will be
embodying Our two essences along with New Heart
and Body. Further, each human will represent
one of the four parts of deity in the healing ceremony."
Thank you Folks. But this sounds scary.
Aren't there dangers in doing something like this?
"Yes, and of course this is advanced work.
Only those who have cleared their personal imprints from this lifetime
and have experience in helping Us heal Our imprints at the
transpersonal level will be able to work successfully at the planetary
level. Please contact Us on the inside
for more specific understandings about how to proceed with this aspect
of the healing work."
Yikes! Okay, Folks. We'll be doing that, for
sure. Is it okay to talk a little more here about the 'cooperation' you
mentioned? Where do we find others to work with, and how do we relate
"At present there are two distinct modes
of relating among humans, cooperation and competition. Cooperation is
like acceptance, it is inclusive and supportive. Competition is like
denial, it excludes and moves to surpass. Cooperation is a reflection
of love for self, projected onto peers. Competition is a reflection of
denial of self, projected onto peers. Cooperation begets unity and
understanding. Competition begets separateness and suspicion.
"Competition in relating comes from
imprinted, unmoving fear and reenacts the superiority
imprint. When your frozen terror of being an outcast and separate
fragment begins to move in loving acceptance, your taste for
competition will fade. When the denial is removed and you have lovingly
accepted all of the terror, you will feel yourself to be safe, no
matter what. It is then that Original Heart's desire
for peers will naturally draw you toward cooperation.
"There have been many gaps between humans
doing the healing work because they have not yet found and moved all of
their terror about themselves as a separate fragment. Concern over your
'point of emergence' and 'position relative to the gap' are examples of
places where frozen terror has not yet begun to move. These concepts
are helpful in triggering the terror, but true human greatness will
never be found in competition with others.
"Your true greatness can only be found
when you can find it in all other humans as well. You are neither
superior nor inferior to anyone else. When you find equally powerful
and knowledgeable people with strong healing intent with whom you are
willing to work in cooperation, you will know how to relate with them.
In the meantime, keep working on finding and moving your frozen terror.
Terror of being a fragment, separate, lost, and less-than that is
freely moving in your own loving acceptance is the key to the energetic
excitement necessary for this next part of the healing work."
Okay Folks, thank you very much.
Channelers' note: This interview continues...
with the Folks, Part Two